Dear Dvorahji: Papaji said: “If you desire to be one with truth, ‘you’ must completely disappear.” Well, I don’t ever dissappear, sometimes I feel I’m not the doer, but then I’m the doer again..I can’t seem to get it? I don’t understand anything in a final sense.
Darling: let me suggest something here. It’s really very simple, tiny, tiny subtle in it’s simplicity, but it is EVERYTHING.
Once you’ve had that moment of clarity, that experience that Enlightenment/Love/Truth/T
hat is your nature….THAT YOU ARE NOT THE DOER. It’s really enough. The problem with seekers is everytime they go into the “experience of I or being the doer” they think they’re back in ignorance and just “AREN’T THERE ANYMORE”. AND THIS IS WHERE the unhappiness BS thoughts start again & we believe them, and then we’re sunk again.
The Self continues to be overwhelmed with the experience of “I’m the doer” it’s a powerful obvious thought that comes & goes and when It comes we buy into it….then it goes and “AHHHHH, oh that’s right, I’m not the doer”.
This doer stuff is really quite stupid, and so is this concept that “we” dissappear.That’s an artistic cool phrase & I love using it for it’s beauty. But we take it literally and then expect to continue to be dissappeared….
Do you kinda get what I’m saying??? Trying to NOT BE THE DOER, OR THINKING THAT YOU SHOULD NOT BE THE DOER – Is what’s doing you IN!!!!
You ALREADY know/have experienced “you are not the Doer”….now forget about it and go in & out of it and BE FREE OF THIS “I’M NOT THE DOER” CONCEPT. just live your life AND BE HAPPY! and you naturally are NOT the Doer.
People still think that ALWAYS RECOGNIZING in a very physical way that they are “not being the doer” makes them “enlightened”, finally THERE. THAT”s actually an idea like any other….LIVING LIFE WITH A DEEP UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DIVINE RUNS THE SHOW, THAT IF IT COULD BE DIFFERENT IT WOULD BE —makes you NATURALLY not the doer, PERIOD. It’s all this thinking “about” that’s causing you problems.
Anyway darlings, relax with your life. I’m trying to talk about something that is a very very very subtle twist in the usual thinking about this subject…But that little twist is the difference between complete FREEDOM and this continuous search…..
This concept is Difficult to explain, because I want to go to the razers edge with IT to cut that tiny tiny subtle illusion you still have about “needing to be the non-doer”. If IT COULD BE DIFFERENT IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT is the exact same thing, but gives you a mantra that is more practical and it makes more sense in this time & place.
Love you Darlings, your Dvorah
This peace sign mean, I’m TRYING to be peaceful—-but since I’m NOT the doer, I can’t guarantee I will be peaceful…SO BEWARE of Dvorahji!
that’s what my Dad used to say. “Dvorah! Get you arse out there and make some money! You got a million degrees, Now GO OUT and use them!”
And I’d say, “But Dad, I make a hundred dollars an hour counseling.”
And he’d say: “So, Dvorah, how many hours have you worked this month?”
And I’d give him a big smile and hold up my 2 (peace sign) fingers. “Sorry Daddy, I only worked 2 hours this month”……and Of course he’d just shake his head in amazement and hope for a better tomorrow!
I couldn’t tell him I was too busy meditating to work…Good lord the fantasies we have in our heads about enlightenment…it’s really ASS-TOUNDING!
Dvorajii. Did you ever generate financial wealth enough to give your dad. Big smile? I had to sdk. Inquiring minds. Ya know? Love and glad I feel free to inquire.
Thank you so much for all you share and all you care – I am grateful to have met you here . . . just a short time ago . . . I love EVERYTHING you post . . . just such great reminders with smiles, laughter, music, humor and love ….. Happy Holidays to you DearOne …… ♥
Hell I don’t know but maybe that person is having fun reading up on Jung and looking back in his or her life. The experence of fun itself is in the presence.
I love to paint, and i started a picture ……them i didnt want this pennis or vagina there, yes i paint spiritual porno frescos, so i changed the locations of the organs to somewhere else on the canvas……sometimes i like to listen to bhajans…..but i can change from a bhajan to a hip hop and then come back again to my bhajans….i wear short hair for many years , now is long, i like to ride my bike, sometimes i didnt see it for weeks…….in my case, im not a rutine person, i like to flow……have new experiences, except colon therapies…..so i dont dream, i just do the things that i want to do, and add things that i never did, but i dont push myself to do it…..i just let the things and my ”moods” to flow.
I think you if you do anything and it’s fun and not ‘exmaning’ or ‘analysis’ . . . you can be IN PEACE and JOY . . . it’s when you do things that pull you into ‘a problem’ that needs to be SOLVED, FIXED ….. PEACE is out the window !! I could care less about my dreams, well some might be FuN 🙂 We won’t go there 🙂 …. but not analyzing . . . I have fond memories of most of my life and sometimes share those with others . . . but, I LIVE NOW . . . and love to LAUGH a LOT …. and I have lots to laugh about in my past experiences ….. whether they were good or challenging situations …. I can LAUGH at all of them NOW 🙂 ♥
Dvorahji Dvorah AdlerUNDERSTAND…There is no “big/little” mind! Like there is no “inner & outer, deep or shallow”. That’s another one of your separate illusions. The BIG ENLIGHTENED MIND is another silly concept you got going for yourself. Enlightenment is MY Nature and I don’t have to channel ANYBODY’S mind big or little, form or no form. Tell “Them” to keep their minds to themselves and free-fall into NO MIND.
I do just want to be a mum and a wife and let my creative art and writing out but something happened to me recently when I fell in love and I cant explain it
Chandelle, everything is always changing, something is always happening, like the changes of the weather, it’s always changing bringing a new experience, right? You’re life is always changing & bringing a new experience, right?…relax with your experiences, see them come and go and you still continue to be that awareness that you’ve always been…
Check out artofliving.org…they have a dynamite breathing couse & it’ll give you a new perspective on how life works and then you can come to your own conclusions…Ok?….Relax,
Dearest Dvorah, I love your postings because they expand my Art of Living family. I love your postings because they stretch and expand my thinking. I love your postings because they touch and massage my heart. I love your postings because their elegance and insight makes me cry. I love your postings because their wit and wisdom make me laugh. I love your postings because they encourage and remind me to relax. I love your postings because they are a dose of joy, inspiration, light and love for me every day. I love your postings because they are gentle and yummy like the vegan marshmallows I treated myself to yesterday. I love your postings because they give me a nudge and sometimes a kick in the you know what to open my eyes and heart wider – especially when I feel like contracting and shrinking from what is. I love your postings because they remind me that I’m more than I think myself to be. I love your postings because you look really fine in rabbit ears. I love your postings because you remind me to have fun. I love your postings because if things could be different, they would be different. I love your postings because you remind me to shut up. I love your postings because I belong to you. From my heart to yours…….
Emptiness is not emptiness.. it brings awarness of a power within.. and the more we can be silent the more the power manifests!! theres great virtue in being silent!!
It is difficult to forgive as long as we identify ourselves with a limited I. This limited sense of I, who we are not, seems to require protection for its survival.
You say a lot of insulting words but nöne of it really makes sense. . .what is so wrong with having a teacher/good example remind you of your ‘natures way’. Maybe one of the great Teachers should remind you of your manners. So that you may become like them. Yes, yes I know – your ego will find something ‘smart’ to say. . .
I don’t understand why people ‘be-friend’ people if they’re going to be insulting themselves. There is such a thing as debating a topic without becoming a child, throwing insults. If you don’t like what they’re saying that much, take them off your friends list and you won’t have to read what they have to say. For someone so quick to point out others bad manners, your’s are not that much better. With that being said, Dvorahji, I do somewhat agree with what Barbara is trying to say, although she’s not being very nice saying it. First of all, wouldn’t it be easier for someone to forgive someone since ‘Jesus said’, as you put it? And if forgiveness is our nature, wouldn’t that also make it easier to forgive someone? This is just my opinion, but in order to forgive someon, you have to accept that whatever they did was meant as a lesson to you, and for that you have to get to the point where you can thank them for the lesson and forgive them for the betrayal. And then you can move on. Until then, Just be. Don’t force the forgiveness… if you get there, you get there. No sense in stressing about it.
if we were being defensive, we would’ve spoke to you the way you spoke to dvorahji. I wrote the words above with the intentions of stating my feelings and thoughts on this topic, not to try to change your mind or defend anyone. And if you had read all of my post, you would’ve noticed that I did agree with some of what you were trying to say, just…See More
Barbara, I’M happy for you and your concept of Jesus and NO I don’t fogive you! but I accept you, and because I accept you, forgiveness is a GIVEN.
Why should I forgive, Why ? That would mean that you did something wrong, wouldn’t it? Well, I just see you as doing your thing, talking your thing. To you LOVE is somehow UNDERSTANDABLE, DEBATABLE…and it just IS. AND FORGIVENESS, WELL IT IS A GIVEN. We are all FORGIVENSS and we are ALL forgiven. Forgiveness from you is nice, and I accept it, BUT it is not YOURS to give. IT JUST IS.
AS soon as I mention JESUS, someone freaks (and you don’t think I didn’t know that?) I LOVE JESUS as I love MY SELF. JESUS is my Nature…FORGIVENESS is my Nature
@Amber, yes forgiving someone becomes much much easier as you accept that “they know not what they do”…..And that what they do is a natural happening. You don’t blame them for it, but again there a
re natural consequences that balance things out.
From my perspective, learning lessons are a concept. We do apper to learn lessons (whether we remember those lessons or not is always a new happening!!!!! EVERYTHING IS PERFECT AS IT IS and every lesson really arises ANEW in consciousness (that doesn’t mean we don’t say thank you).
I’m not here to debate Jesus or manners. I’m NOT here to change the world ….I’m HERE to show by EXAMPLE…THAT LOVE IS MY NATURE…thoughtless or not, rude or not, loving or not, forgiving or not…LOVE IS MY NATURE. AND LOVE IS YOUR NATURE, do you get it?
You don’t have to be holy, you don’t HAVE to be nice, you don’t have to pious, you don’t have to forgive, you don’t have to have manners, you don’t have to beleive in Jesus or Buddha or Saints or sinners to BE IN THE GRACES, GOODWILL, AT PEACE IN THE SPACIOUS INFINITE, OPEN LOVING ARMS OF THE DIVINE. Do you get it?
LOVE, PEACE, ENLIGHTENMENT, THE DIVINE, FORGIVENESS, GRACE WILL ALWAYS BE YOUR NATURE. ALWAYS. So you can be at peace with yourselves. your personalities, your thoughts, feelings and actions that come and go. YOU CAN FINALLY FINALLY FINALLY BE HAPPY! and that’s why there is a Dvorahji at this time in this place…..I love you, Dvorahji…
(and I would say I started the new year off JUST RIGHT.
I like this….I am doing forgiveness/acceptance at work all the time. I am dealing with people that I don’t like, but since we work together I’ve had (with the help of the other)a few jovial conversations with them that seemed like a connection was made. Then that likeness is possible toward this person. I can’t believe how loving and a relief that is.
(private message w/permission between Dvorahji & Barbara Hood)
Dvorah Adler January 6 at 9:46am You’re far too precious & beautiful a person to delete as a friend…but you don’t agree with many things that I say, your perspective is different, but it seems to me you’re very happy with your life & your thinking and that’s all I really care about…is that you’re happy…so why bother with my posts at all? sending love & good wishes, Dvorahji (& her big fat smart HUGEEEE Ego….)
Barbara Hood January 6 at 11:31am Hey huni, I’m sure you don’t want everyone agreeing with you all the time. . .do you have any idea how many other souls we reached by our ‘opposing’ energies seeking truth. Many people read what we both wrote tonight, and they will have gained.. .
Dvorahji Dvorah Adler January 6 at 11:36am Oh baby, you are wrong! I want everyone agreeing with me! but alas, that’s not possbile…but you’re right, what’s important is that everyone hears what they hear and grows in their own precious way…I’m sure Jesus is certainly having a good laugh…
Barbara Hood January 6 at 11:51am There is a laughing Buddha too I believe 😉 (the end) ______________________________________________ Everything is for the fun of the GAME…enjoy the Game…
Awesome… the whole thing is… just… awesome. Surprising how things work out huh!? What a huge… coincidence! hahahaha The kind of coincidence, we all know don’t exist… gotta love these moments… XD
This exchange is just plain wonderful! I love when people don’t necesarily agree, yet come to conclusions of each other and others. The fact that you don’t agree and are still “right” is a reflexion of how much everything “here” is an ilusion and is shaped by what our “minds” and “egos” do.
Understanding our true nature and our experience here and now… that is why we are here. The rest is for fun 😀 Enjoy.
Dvorahji: Ohhhhhhhhh Can you please tell me your opinion about why people born disable? It hurts me to see my daughter in this position? I’m confused about it?****
Darling Girl: Why do some rose buds open and some don’t? Why do some bird eggs hatch and some don’t? Why does one person fall out of a plane and live and another falls in the bathtub and dies?
These are the question of WHY, WHY , WHY me, why her? Why did this happen? The reasons can be very simple or infinitely complicated. WHO KNOWS WHY, THINGS HAPPEN, life is a myriad of life forms, situations, circumstances. TO wonder why is to wonder why one particular hair on your head bends to the left.
I could give you a standard “karma” answer but so what? What good does it do you or your daughter? Or I could say, next life time she will be an angel with all the glorious of heaven and earth and she is just paying off some karma, and so are you by showing great compassion and yada yada yada. But what good would an answer like that bring – but a million more questions & hopes?
There is a point Wendy when ALL THESE QUESTIONS WILL STOP. AND YOU WILL BE AT PEACE with whatever HAS happened, DOES happen, and WILL happen. Your thoughts are driving you nuts, not life…life continues as your thoughts change…Relax, just relax and continue and be happy, at peace with your life exactly as it continues to show up. Just relax. You are loved beyond measure and taken care of always. PEACE, LOVE ARE YOUR NATURE…but this world, your life circumstances will come & go and continue to change, sometimes sunny sometimes cloudy, like the weather.
I love you, relax….sending love and blessing to you and your daughter, your friend,
PS. In the end in all turns into LOVE.Dvorahji
My daughter & I send lots of love to you & your daughter….
Who the hells knows what my karma is I could have been a reincarnated Beetoven who just happened to hit the wrong note and was going deaf when he fell over dead and now I, when I was 7 born hard of hearing and took up playing piano for the first time like a pro with lota wrong notes lol. I think today I am looking for a creative outlook to make the right note whatever that is be it visual, noise, or maybe food or relationships or just plain life. I don’t think about my disability, the way I see it, it takes two to make it seem like a “disability”…the one w/disability and the other without a disability.
Yeah I see your point especially in relations to what you said in your status that we are who we are minus life and death. It’s mighty tricky to try to think myself without a body tho I prefer to think of it as love then a disability. Is this what you mean going for the top of the ice cream in your note of comparison with Byron Katie…if I think of disability as concept coming from the two and you taking it and making it all inclusive that we all have a disability for just living. Neat way of thinking…then what is the point of making a misery out of being disable when you we are all in the same boat. um…
Our disability, is that we don’t realize that LOVE is our Nature, that we’re safe, at home, and everything is exactly as it can ONLY BE…
We all come in with this eventual twist of DISABILITY OF SEPARATENESS and that disability is EVERYTHING. It’s the underlying problem of all our dissatisfaction and misery in life.
This is the Disability we need to eradicate first and then there won’t be any disabilities AT ALL…But hey…it’s a lila, IT IS WHAT IT IS…that’s why we’re try and be has happy as we can until it’s time and this MAJOR DISABILITY IS HEALED!
As a mother with a daughter that born ”disable”, well thats the label that society use to describe the differences, i always wanted to know as the mother i am, why she born quadrapligic, and second how can i help her. The process of being her mother teached me love and introduced me to the precious realm of oneness…..my daughter and i, we arejust one, we compleated each other, complement each other…of course sometimes is hard, i have to lift her, and believe me she is a big girl, i have no lift system at home, second, no father around, and no nurse or careguiver, we do not qualify for the services…..i have to take care of her all this years (almost 16) with no help from nobody……karma ? i dont waste my time thinking about karma, my time is to precious to go back to history and try to find out what the hell wrong i did, or she did……or good. I love and enjoy the prescence of my girl, i just wanted to know the why’s…….and i guess there is a bunch of why’s and may be they are none…who knows……..after talking to my precious Dvorahji, i put all the questions on the side…….if they will be answer some time in the cycle of life, i have no idea, all i care for now is to keep doing what im doing, sure there is more to learn, to share, to love, to be mad, and go back and force to hell……but im sure of something……..that inside me and my daughter there is just pure love for each other and the rest of our precious brothers and sister in this planet and other universes…..for now in this moment of time…..she is using my legs…….and i love to share them with her !
@Cathy. NO, (not because you have to die) -.because we have to live! withOUT the awareness of that simple simple simiple state of awareness……….Because we don’t recognize that LOVE IS OUR NATURE, so we suffer….needlessly….unbearable…UNTIL we’re home to ourselves….
@Wendy…Baby for sure YOU ARE LOVE and a delicious mama tooooooo!……and never, ever, ever, ever, ever, was any of this your fault…….IT JUST WAS…. for the infintie amount of reasons that out of trillions of leaves, one gets discolored and others around it don’t……IT’S A HAPPENING….and I’m so happy…you are happy….
Wow Wendy I am humbled just reading your story. I wouldn’t mess with all this why business but then I am not in your shoes. And I do recognize the bonding between mothers and daughter…I missed my mother she had a lot of mental illness but she was also my mom. Nobody could cut thru that. But I do not have kids of my own. But I question about the thought that you don’t qualify for service? You can’t be doing this all alone. Community do not support? I remember at times when my mother was sick and the community mental health wasn’t doing their job or was doing it poorly I would get so angry…it’s explosve if I don’t have an outlet to vent my thoughts so even if you persist with all these why thoughts I would just let it all out let it come even if it’s just redundent. But it’s refreshing to hear D ‘s saying it is a happening. It give fresh air for sure.
Dear Dvorahji…….im glad that we share this space we call now…. Dawn….thank you for your kindness……i have a planet earth mother….she never ever care for me, her mother never cared for her also….she was abandoned by her mother on a bridge with her other siblings when she was 5 years old…..so, when it was her turn to be a mother, she didnt care a dime of me and my brother. This is a good question……..do we have to follow the ”traditions” or our earth parents ? no. So, i trully believe we born enlighthed, and we will be enlighthed for the eternity…..Some people know that, some people don’t. When i was a little girl, i use to put bandages to the animals from the farm i was raised, i teached myself about compassion, and kindness…..the bandages was a way to show them my unconditional love. Being surrounded by nature, more than humans i learned the language of nature……when my daughter born, and my other one ”die”, i was ready for a caring experience…. Yes, sometimes, i am mad, but not at the circunstances. This is funny, but do you ever watch the movie Avatar ? i compare myself with the tall and beautiful ”alien”….i am light, love, kindness, but i am also a warrior…..(yin yang ?) Im sure i will get some help to lift my girl, and if not, i promised that while i am in this body i will be a ”amazon” a ”viking”…..a ”warrior”……because i need to care for my girl…..if i tell you that i can lift 600 pound, will you believe me ? i trained myself since a little girl for this experience, you have to see, my husband he is 7 feet tall, his reaction……when he saw me lifting the 600 pounds rock…. What im trying to tell you is that besides my internal ”why’s, and that sometimes i show the midle finger while im driving, i do everithing with love, also when i pull that middle finger, i think it is a fairy wand, sending some love to the asshole that call me the b word, lol…….there is not mistakes, im sure of that, and life is a big tv screen, he have in our hands the remote, and we can change the channel every time we want, lol…….for now, im still alien mode….
This dream analyzing is just like analyzing your thoughts…what a waste of time! WHY can’t people just LIVE? JUST LIVE…move on from one moment to the next, from one dream to the next! But NO, instead they want to meander BACKWARDS.
LIVE, and move ALONG!
Everyone is always quoting Jung or trying to teach illusive dreaming…WHO the hell cares? People are bored with their lives so now they want to DREAM, moving from one circle into another, over and over again! How boring!
A famous Spiritual leader recently said: “When you step into the awareness you are here to embrace (your evolutionary awakening) – you become spiritual nobility”
That statement would be laughable if so many people didn’t believe It. This is such NONSENSE! You might as well become a spiritual ASS, you’d have more going for you.
What’s so ridiculous about this statement, is many spiritual seekers buy into this craziness. They develop some siddhis, or have a little kundilini action, or maybe they manifest a healing or a boyfriend for minute, or a great tantric orgasm AND suddenly they’re “spiritual nobility”. You are delusional! Doesn’t this all sound just a tad suspicious?
Frankly I’m tired of making nicey/lovey/peacy pretending I buy into this spiritual manifester, positive thinking controlling, co-creator crap. Are you crazy? Yesterday you were selling insurance and today you’re God’s co-creator, creating your life “with HIM”. Where do you get these fantasies?
Apparently from your spiritual leaders. What is it you want? You want a soulmate? A new car? You want to go to heaven? You want to be part of the rapture? You want to reincarnate as a Guru? You want and want and want and you are encouraged now to WANT SPIRITUAL NOBILITY!
Give it a F-ing REST. Go get a life! Stop praying and begging and pleading for some soul to save you and bring you to heaven. Stop listening to ridiculous people who offer their body to 30,000 year old men or cadres of spiritual idiots who come through to give the world a piece of advice.
If some dead fool wanted to use my body, I’d tell him to get lost and wait his turn til he got a body of his own. It’s my turn now. Who cares what they have to say in their silly accents? And how is it any different then what every other New age fantasy maker has to say?
If you want peace, freedom, real Happiness – you can Stop wanting and wanting and wanting a different life then you have. Why can’t you be an ordinary wonderful person, getting married, having kids, getting old and dying. NO, that’s not good enough for you. You want to be SPIRITUAL NOBILITY. You want a big fat Enlightenment crown to commemorate your ‘EVOLUTIONARY AWARENESS”. Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds? Any idea at all?
IT’s lovely to be inspired to be filled with love, adoration and service and to offer that to your fellow man as an equal. But NO, you want to be his teacher, you want to “show him the way” to Spiritual Nobility! From Christians, to Muslims, to Alchemist, to Advaitist, to lightworker, to the Ashtar Command, to the ACIMers, to the New Age Unitarian Preachers. You just can’t shut your mouth about everything you DON”T KNOW.
You want to do everything BUT LIVE YOUR LIFE as it shows up. You want to eat better, live longer, meditate better, f#@k better, you want to do everything better then what you got going right here and right now.
Great! Suffer. Believe all the Bullshit and Suffer! Until it finally hits you that LOVE IS YOUR NATURE. Life is LIVING YOU and you are as much in control of your life as an ant is in control of its. An ant does IT’S THING and you do your THING, an ant is actually better off, it doesn’t question whether it’s living it’s life according to the “big plan”.
IF you ever decide that you don’t want to be “spiritual nobility” but want to join the rest of humanity in BEING SPIRITUAL BY THEIR VERY NATURE…then you can get your spiritual head out of your spiritual ASS…and say THANK YOU God for all I am and all I have and just LIVE. Move along with your life and LIVE IT without this enlightenment megalomania trap that you’ve been steered into.
You are already blessed. You are already enlightened, you are already AWARE (what else could you be, are you dead?) You ARE ALREADY SAVED, and you are ALREADY part of the spiritually noble. ( there is no “enlightened awareness” required).
I love you babies…GO FORTH AND BE HAPPY with your life exactly as IT SHOWS UP! and for God’s sake stop co-creating (some bozo came up with that term) There is NO two. ONLY ONE and that ONE is your Nature.
ALL teachers of “light” (dead or alive) should get themselves a Hat and some plastic flowers, and sing the “LIFE IS MEANINGLESS” song…
LIfe Is Awesomely meaningless video http://www.youtube.com/user/dvorahji#p/u/1/_vctovhDQv8
Wow!! So true it is!! Its so sad some people are all confused Dvoranji, mainly because of these types of spiritual leaders saying these things!! I am so blessed to have Guruji guide me through this path of illusions! There is only One, there is only one truth! For me is accepting that even the worst or the not so fun moments are ok!! I am all ok!! good/bad am all ok cuz I AM!! Love you!!
Yes, Self-acceptance is a biggie…the divine is the warts & all, the owies & the fun– the totality of life… flows along. And now I say goodnight all! (:
IN the big picture, it’s always all cool….but that doesn’t mean I like it! and what fun would it be to always be popping my head in agreement….God! now that’s boredom!
Ya think? Love is all there is…also called Energy, which manifests in an infinite variety of “forms” and “non-forms”. Everything in the physical Universe is an illusion. Happiness is a choice, having nothing to do with circumstances.
Happiness as a choice is the BIGGEST ILLUSION OF ALL! (anyway baby, that’s my opinion…)…let’s see what happiness when you want to be happy, and you just CAN’T. WHAT THEN?
ha ha !!! I just read your note in response to that one !! and i absolutely loved it. SOoooooooo true !!! And many many…many many need to read this and understand this.
@Tanbir, Guruji is my Nature..I don’t have to “channel” him – I don’t have to “channel” a person…..The “big MIND” is my Nature, as it is yours.
@Ash – there is energy manifesting in a variety or forms or non-forms and WHO CARES? And then there is LOVE which is “form or non-form” and IS NOT ENERGY. IT IS! AND IT IS MY NATURE. IT JUST IS. PERIOD.
It doesn’t trickle as an “identified energy” like Abraham, or George. IT IS MY NATURE. And as long as it has a name…IT IS NOT FREEDOM. IT is “bound” in energy. Why listen to Abraham when you can listen to your mother or some saint that you can wink at afterwards. Abraham is PART OF MY NATURE…I don’t need to channel Abraham.
But NO! WE want that “other” that “special other magical” experience of some “energy” having a conversation with us. If Abraham wants to talk to me, tell him to send me a letter. But no only HICKS will do, I’m not quite good enough. Hicks was dumb enough to give up her Body. And she has served the world by giving them another CONCEPT, ANOTHER ILLUSION.
TEll me, DO you want to be Free, or do you want to be listening to the next “positive thought” that comes out on a CD tape? If you WANT TO BE FREE -then you’ll drop the positive and the negative and free fall into EVERYTHING YOU DON’T KNOW…instead of everything you do.
it’s been a long time since a “guru” has made me laugh out loud! mary’s got the right idea: nail this to the church of enlightenment door a la luther. thank you & happy new year♥
@David – whatsamadda, you don’t like Michael Beckwith? Ever been to Agape in LA? I actually love it there and feel like an in love mushy dancing fool when I’ve visited. all that singing will make anyone love the LORD….But that statemtent regardless of the context was wayyyyyyyy toooooooooo muchHHHHHHHH! don’t get me stahteddddddddd!
@Ash, I do want to add something about “LOVE is all there is” has nothing to do with “love is all we think, feel or do”. We talking about oranges and apples.
LOVE is all there is IS a NOUN. IT IS IS IS PERIOD. MY NATURE. Love as a verb, is the body the mind, your thoughts feelings, actions that come and then they gooooo. There are not permanent. Just like your feelings.
So tell me Ash or anyone else, Are you thoughts ALWAYS loving? Are your feelings allways loving towards other Or yourself? Are you actions ALWAYS loving? The anwser is NOOOOOO!
But if I asked you: “Are you LOVE? Is LOVE you very Nature that doesn’t come or go?” THEN the answer is YES! A big infinite resounding YES! LOVE is all there IS!
And this (from my perspective) is where all the new agers leave everybody in the dust. Their ignorance assumes that you can ‘THINK, ACT, BE LOVING ALL THE TIME”….and that’s where your real MISERY COMES in. Because you can’t!!! And then you fall into depression of: “Why can’t I? what’s wrong with me?, I need to meditate more, pray more, be more. Help me I’m falling…” (isn’t that a song)
If people weren’t so obsessessed with heaven (being the perfect little loving example of God) they wouldn’t be in SUCH HELL! Because God is their Nature, you don’t have to ‘become anything”. YOU ARE.
@wendy, read all the comments..you stopped too soon….Once you read that “my Guruji comment” it hit one of your buttons & you stopped reading…keep going………
This is EXCELLENT!!! You know, when the movie “The Secret” came out and I saw a trailer, I felt the same way about it, like all the positive thinking ideas that say “Think/Believe it and it comes.” BS. Yes positive is ‘better’ than negative but it’s still BS. Dvorahji, you say it BEST! Love and Hugs!
Ok I re-read all the note and the comments!! I got it! I dont know if it was a button it pressed but it definately made me confused. These days I have less buttons, thanks to my religious and dogmatic catholic ex!!
Dear Dvorahji: I read your books, I love what you say, and there were times I could feel what you said. At the moment I’m totally lost, unconnected. I feel that its not God/GURU being bad to me, but it’s ME who has let HIM go. I want to feel close again.*****
Darling: Love is your nature. The God/Guru is your Nature…just because you don’t feel grounded/connected to HIM doesn’t mean The Guru/love isn’t there. Think about it? The shine is shinning whether you’re outside or inside the house. IT JUST SHINES, RIGHT. You don’t have to feel connected to it for the SUN to shine.
Relax with all these ideas of “what should be Happening to you”. Remember ‘If it could happen differently, It Would Happen differently! Ok? Just live your life however it shows up, without all these expectation of what your life “should” look like.
I’ve never said you have to feel connected to HIM. And WHO cares what the Guru does or not. He does his thing and you do your thing and sometimes you both do his thing and everybody’s happy. HIM/Guru is a noun – IT IS. It’s not a verb, something you feel or think! Relax and have fun LIVING, thinking, feeling, acting exactly as you do…Just RELAX…..happy New Year Honey…
I feel closer to the Guru when I’m wear tin foil on my head. I think it keeps the connection better!
Gosh, just the answer to my own feeling! I feel guilty that I want to be alone, reading, doing my sadhana and puja alone these days- partly because I have major responsibilities at home/office; partly because my own nature isn’t too group-oriented. I get chided by my local Art of Living teacher for not coming to the local happeniings, but I seem … See More
The most important thing in your life is to save your psychology, to save your smile, to save your balance. Meditate, sing, dance serve, do your program anywhere, anytime. It’s nice to go to group kriyas and affairs – But that’s NOT an order, it’s a offer, an invitation, like someone asking you to come to dinner.
Things change in your life, service is service is service – It doesn’t have a label on it. Help where you can, do what you can, go to AOL happenings when you can, and if you can’t? SO WHAT? You’re not supposed to feel guilty, you’re supposed to feel Happy with whatever your doing.
Getting chided is ok, maybe they miss your energy and miss you…but if someone pulls a guilt trip on you, then just say…Hey I’m happy! I do my program, I serve whenever I can. According to Sri Sri I’m perfect, don’t you think so? I belong to you…not an AOL calendar.
ANOTHER THING IS WE HAVE HAIR ON OUR HEAD BUT DO WE FEEL IT EVERYTIME???NOOO!!!BUT IT IS THERE…SO THE CONNECTION AND GRACE IS THERE.WE FEEL OUR HAIR WHEN SOMEONE PLUCKS ….A SINGLE STRAND IS ENOUGH TO FEEL IT…THE ENTIRE BODY EXPERIENCES IT!!
It`s one reason I moved out here in the sticks…..to be in nature and a quiet place where I know what`s right for me. It`s worked very well so far. No, I`m not a hermit, maybe a faux Thoreau
People are always begging for forgiveness, or they pray that “God will forgive them” or they think forgiveness is some kind of great virtue and create massive amounts of misery and guilt for themselves & others – because they just can’t forgive their mother, their neighbor, their own transgressions, their thoughts, their feelings, their actions and everything else they think was done wrong!!
So let’s take another look at this CONCEPT called forgiveness. It is more religious hype, not true SPIRITUALITY that has gotten you stuck here and frankly it’s an old concept with very few redeeming qualities. HAVE YOU EVER TRIED TO FORGIVE YOURSELF AND OTHERS? You do, and then what happens? Someone does something to you or you hurt someone again, and WHAM! You’re right back where you started having to “TRY” and forgive yourself and other’s again and again and again. You never seem to get off the Forgiveness Train and you demand forgiveness from others too!
Forgiveness “assumes” that the other person or you screwed up and did something “terribly wrong’ and God/Jesus/Buddha needs to forgive you. FIRST OF ALL-God/Jesus/Buddha are your Nature – and you, my darlings are NOT THE DOER, so WHO do you think screwed up and WHO do you think needs forgiveness?
ALL your “humble manipulations” to “be good” (say and do the right thing, get to heaven or get enlightened) are fruitless in the face of WHO YOU ARE and WHAT IS. It’s ok to say you’re sorry and give and accept an apology. Great! Then let it go and ACCEPT the transgression for what is was. A HAPPENING IN CONSCIOUSNESS. You could say, God/Jesus/IT screwed up and then FORGAVE ITSELF…OK?
Your job is not to forgive or be forgiven – Your job is to ACCEPT (we change what we can and we…you know the saying). You could say we are ALL FAMILY (the birds the bees the monkey and man) – and we are all part of this magnificent creation and HAPPENING…and we accept ourselves, the world and all it’s JOY and MISERY exactly the WAY IT IS! That way you don’t have to get stuck in Forgiveness and you won’t be asking or demanding everyone else to get stuck in forgiveness. ACCEPT and BE— HAPPY! Finally.
And of course I LOVE YOU – your friend, Dvorahji
I forgive GOD for giving me horns and I forgive myself for not likeing them, .and I forgive you for making fun of me for having horns! and basically:
“I CONSOLE MYSELF BY THE FACT THAT GOD MADE ME”….BEETHOVEN
