Karma is a thought…but thought itself is an infinite mystery, like Karma is a myriad of something or other doing something or other…it’s really quite astounding, how this manifestation works, crazy mysteriously AWESOME …. REMEMBER THE MYSTERY, NOT THE DEFINITIONS…
Dvorahji: I have this one big question: Why if Gautam Buddha achieved enlightenment by penance, why, instead of sharing his enlightenment, did he teach about how to live life with Dharma? Perhaps life is enlightenment? This sounds logical, but is it a trick of the mind?
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Darling: Buddha did what he did. (which was appropriate for that time and place). How come Jesus only took 12 disciples and only one woman and why was she a prostitute? BECAUSE he did what he did. WHY don’t you stand on a rooftop and shout everything you’ve learned to everybody, every day? BECAUSE, you do what you do. Buddha did what he did, Jesus did what he did, and you do what you do. IT’s just that simple. Buddha followed his story line, Jesus followed his story line, and you follow your story line.
Now if Buddha is your path and his teachings & teachers are your teachers, you’ll probably be following what Buddha said, which Now is no longer his story line but YOURS. EVerything and Everyone including “the Masters” just do what they do” in their own story. IT’s a LILA honey….a story, a Life time original movie.
By the Way – there’s nothing wrong with wondering about anything, it’s just something to wonder about that goes in and out of your mind, like “why did he say that”, or “maybe I need a new vitamin” or “I wonder if Mary really was a virgin”….there’s no end to all the thoughts that come and go….There’s no substance in your mundane thoughts or your intellectual thoughts or your holy/sacred thoughts…they’re all thoughts moving in & out…and so what? That’s what the mind does, it thinks! By he way, there’s no substance to Buddha either, except when you think of him is there? Where is he when you’re not thinking of him? GONE!!!! …CUT OFF HIS HEAD!
And where are you when you’re not “thinking” of yourself? You’re just doing what you’re doing, no thoughts, no mantra, just chugging along like ” The little engine that could!” YOU’RE GONE TOO!!!!!….CUT OFF YOUR OWN HEAD…..and see how happy you are!
I have been going up and down mostly because of my feverishness and desires to have a love relationship. My love has not been reciprocated and I must admit it has been a blow to my ego. What’s wrong with me? I know it is what it is, so why can’t I just relax with this? I don’t want to love like this….Help.
DVORAHJI:
I actually have a very simple NEW MANTRA for you:
WHAT IS YOURS, WILL ALWAYS BE YOURS.
WHAT IS NOT YOURS, WILL NEVER BE YOURS.
Finding your true love, really doesn’t have anything to do with you. Some things/people just aren’t yours, and some are. And then some are yours for awhile and then…..off they go or you go. You’ve got to realize that finding love isn’t any different then finding a job or special pair of shoes. Sometimes you luck out and sometimes you just don’t (for a million different reasons that you will never figure out!)
I remember having a relationship that was just like all the rest – really quite stupid and meaningless. I loved him, he kinda loved me. I watched myself showing up where I knew he would be, just so I could hang out with him. And frankly it was getting very frustrating (especially since he was a gorgeous player).
I remember going home one day, parking in the garage, windows up and screaming in my mind: “Send me my love, my true love or F-leave me alone forever. Just send him and I mean NOW!”
I went into the house to meditate, and I started to do these breathing excercises naturally in my meditation. I didn’t even know what I was doing, but there it was, this sudden breathing. That weekend I took the Art of Breathing course and realized I had already been doing the Sudarshan Kriya naturally. I saw a video of Sri Sri and immediately realized my true love, the one I had desperately longed & asked for. (However it wasn’t what I had “thought” I wanted)
Now that’s my love story, yours is different. But from then on I never doubted that what belongs to me in this life time DOES MANIFEST. And what doesn’t – belongs to someone else.
This is the knowledge to relax with…it’s very concrete. And this time if a potential love doesn’t reciprocate – know, he just does not belong to you, and it isn’t your fault because it has nothing to do with you. So NOW you can relax with full confidence and use your new mantra:
What is mine, will always be mine
What is NOT mine, will never be mine…Ok, now go have some fun!
Where is my Soulmate? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqGXsD8_NgM&feature=related
He refused my advances…A truly hearbreaking story…and I told him: “What is a Dali Lama without a Dali Mama?”….I guess he was scared!….It ended u
p being ok, I replaced him with a younger Saint.
SEEEEE! What have I told you all??? What’s yours will always be yours and what isn’t……??? well you know the rest.
Laughing……………. interesting you refer to DL as your ‘ex’. You did very good darling, very good indeed. Strangely though, he sounds very much like someone I met about 5 years ago, and we’ve had a daily thing since. Hmmmm. I think we’re gonna have to fly you up here sometime, D. Lots of laughter. Go get some gelato and wear your viking hat.
Thank you, Dvorahji. When it comes to ‘soul mates’, sometimes you think you’re gonna spin your wheels forever. At this point I’ll even take a good ‘horizontal bop mate.’ But even THAT’s hard to find– hahah. It can be a BIG letdown. Celibacy and solitude do have their virtues…but…damn..enough is enough LOL. ♥♥♥
The Most amazing realization is when you clearly see EVERYTHING COMES & GOES-Everything is happening holographically: STILL U can get overshadowed. Why? Because thoughts/feelings are insidious.They’re always doing their job. HOWEVER-KNOW that in the deepest hole-there’s this SPACE/THIS LOVE that suffering & circumstances of life CAN”T touch. THAT is UR Nature. IT IS ALWAYS HERE WITH YOU in the center of your life.
When you are suffering, when you are truly stymied about WTF is happening in your life; when there is no peace and nowhere to go….a prayer arises naturally and asks, “Dear God, what is happening here?” And it’s this innocent, longing, surrendered prayer, born of suffering that leads you home to the PEACE/LOVE/SPACE that is your nature. So in fact, you are always NATURALLY taken care of.
ps. btw – you don’t have to be suffering to experience your Nature. You can be meditating, running, watching tv, yelling at the top of your lungs, or making love…A slight shift of attention/breath and HERE YOU ARE.
This Ego is the most MISS-Understood topic in spiritual discussions & practices. Everybody and their Spiritual teacher or guide is trying to get rid of their ego and are constantly accusing each other of having a big ego…so much hassle over nothing! (FROM SHUT UP! AN ANCIENT MANTRA FOR COMPLETE HAPPINESS- THE SIMPLE TRUTH YOUR GURU, THERAPIST & GRANDMOTHER FORGOT TO TELL YOU)
WHY CAN’T I GET RID OF MY EGO? Darlings, you don’t have an ego. Who told you that you had an ego? What you have is a case of the blues. You imagine you have an ego, and in the name of that fantasy, you cause your- self all kinds of havoc. You imagine all kinds of transgressions in the name of your imaginary ego, and then you hold everyone else responsible for their miserable egos too. What an egotistical life you’ve structured!
The ego you’ve manufactured is just another one of your games to keep yourself interested in life. What would you do without an ego to keep you occupied?
It’s your preoccupation with your ego that keeps you busy and challenged, as you search out different ways to get rid of it. Think of all the time and money you’ve spent on self-develop- ment classes, just so you can keep your ego in check. And notice how unhappy and desperate you get when your “ego” has sabotaged your life, especially when you’re finally getting somewhere on this spiritual path.
My dear, it’s ridiculous how much attention you give to this “idea” called an ego. It’s another one of those illusions that keep you bound in hope and worry. You hope you’ll be able to conquer it, and you’re worried you never will. It’s quite a loop you’ve gotten yourself in. So, my darling, here comes more good news. You can drop all that useless worry about your ego and live life as if you’ve conquered it. You can be the master of your ego. How does that make you feel–happy?
I want you to shout out loud at this moment that you’re free of your ego. As a matter of fact, I’d like you to announce to the world that you’re madly in love with your ego. Tell them your ego is now your very best friend and you don’t know how you ever thought of living without it.
Design a big Kali statue ego of yourself, with gorgeous exotic flower leis around your neck, and buy an exquisite silk sari to wrap about your beautiful body. You now have a stunning ego you can truly worship and adore, just like the holy statues in the Vedic Temples.
You see, once you finally get over your baseless fear of your ego, you’re finally free to laugh and enjoy your life. You’ll probably start boasting and telling everyone how wonderful, intelligent and beautiful you are. Everyone will begin to marvel at your huge, gorgeous, over- the-top ego.
My darlings, what a trip you are, such a precious, adorable trip. Why would you ever want to get rid of your ego–such a huge, shim- mering in-your-face ego? Have fun with it now. Kiss and embrace your ego. Let it play with the other glorious egos in your DREAM universe.
OH THANKGOD, cause I really started to love my ego, BECAUSE I have started to love myself more than ever beforeeeeee, SO I started to THINK it was my naughty egos doing, so thats why i started to love it (ego) cause it feelsss real good, BUT then i realised it wasn’t “egotisticallllll ” to love myself moreeeeeee at ALLLLLL, it was just that it was ABOUT TIME TO JUST LOVE MYSELF, after around 30 years of not…..LOL…♥♥♥
People haven’t been given the right interpretation of the ego….Does a tree have an ego? Does an animal have an ego? Does the son have an ego?…Everything that you see is this EGO, this stream of “IDENTIFICATION” – life in motion, thoughts in motion are THE EGO IN MOTION, ENERGY IN MOTION….No ego, no life…do you kinda get that?
If you are made of this material called “the Divine, Consciousness, God, whatever – then this CONCEPT the ego is made of the same material, isn’t it? And if that’s so, then the EGO, is Divine and does exactly what it needs to do…EGO IS MANIFESTATION AT PLAY WITH OTHERS.
An egomaniac, is someone who takes this play wayyyyyyyyyy to seriously and identifies mainly with his body and somewhere along the line has forgotten his divine play -HOWEVER, he’s also just doing his bit in this divine play. EGO IS DIVINE LILA….
I’m tired of hearing seekers & teachers PROCLAIMING they are LIVING IN THE PRESENT! As if that’s a great spiritual feat! Honestly it’s RIDICULOUS! Your are ALWAYS in the present. Where else could you Be? Your body is HERE. Your breath is HERE & even your thoughts (of past & future are HERE, IN THE PRESENT. These stupid “spiritual concepts” are what’s keeping you longing & whining for ‘this illusory present”.
The mind is ALWAYS IN THE PRESENT MOMENT….EVEN when it thinks about the past or present. This CONCEPT that you are not in the present is so bogus and causes suffering in seekers, who are always “looking” for the present moment.
nooooooooo my dear have to share it wid u dat most of d misery, pain n suffering is bcuz the ‘pendulum ‘ mind keeps moving to much to d right n left that is to d past n future which is like entanglement wid something over which u have no control n leaves u in a situation where u r like hanging from a hook on the wall utterly helpless………
UNFORTUNATELY, there’s an infinite amount of reasons for misery, to go around!
If we would just ACCEPT that the mind goes backwards and forwards and upside down – and realize that we are NOT our thoughts, then we could more readily fall into that PEACEFUL/SPACE that is our NATURE, when we are overwhelmed by thoughts & feelings.
The TRICK, is to accept life as it shows up…fighting it just doesn’t work (although we do feel like we’re getting somewhere when we are doing something).
From my perspective, as soon as you wake up and the thought hits you, “here I am”, your suffering begins.
Yoga, meditation, chanting, chocolate and all kinds of drugs…do help for a little while——but then there it is again that THOUGHT: “I’M HERE A AGAIN” and the suffering/ecstasy of ourselves and others, begins all over again.
We can sugar coat our existence any way we want. We can praise the Gods and praise the Gurus and praise WHATEVER…and thennnnnnnnn: You wake up in the morning and there’s that thought again: “HERE I AM” and the world and all it’s misery/joy opens up to you again.
From my perspective NOTHING WORKS. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WORKS. All the yagyas, all the kriyas, all the pujas, all the positive crap, all the prayers, all the hopes. NOTHING, AND I MEAN NOTHING MAKES LIFE GO YOUR WAY, UNLESS IT HAPPENS TO BE GOING YOUR WAY anyway. Bottom line, it’s NOT YOUR LILA. It’s THE LILA.
Check out your greatest Saints and all their powers. Ramana Maharishi, Jesus, whomever….NOT ONE OF THEM could bring peace on earth with all their prayers, and siddhis and “high vibrations”. They died, did what they did, continue to do what they do without their bodies and STILL LIFE IS SUFFERING/BLISS – Together.
Try it yourself. Listen to some bhajans before you go to sleep, feel the bliss. Wake up and then your world begins with: ‘Here I am again and you’re still in bliss. Then you get the phone call that your son was just killed, or you’re losing your house, or the doctor calls you in for more test, or you even get the flue – and NOW, life is SUFFERING again.
All this new age Yapping about how life is a CELEBRATION, ONE CONSTANT HAPPY BLISSFUL MOMENT is completely ridiculous, just words. Yes! Sometimes it is and sometimes it isn’t and most of the time it isn’t.
LIFE IS WHAT IT IS – and our best bet is to continue our spiritual programs and WONDER AT THE MYSTERY and VAST enigma OF IT ALL….cause honestly, it’s ASTOUNDINGLY, miraculously CRAZY FROM ANY PERSPECTIVE – HERE & NOW IN THE PRESENT MOMENT.
What is so hard about continuing what you’re doing anyway? You do what you do anyway, so what is the problem HERE? DO your program and do what you do! without all these “whys”! What is so Frickin’ hard about that?
Shut UP & Be Happy MEANS – Go inside (do your program) and be Happy (accept life as it comes up)!
There are a trillion answers to all these “why & how questions that contstantly come up when we don’t accept our life as it shows up. AND each answer leads to more unsatisfying answers. Turns into al big brain MESS.
Maharishi would say: SEE THE JOB DO THE JOB STAY OUT OF THE MISERY (The BS of your mind of course)
Yes! Dvorahji, you can not say that the exercises doesnt work or Kryia , or mediation. Yes some how everything has is owen imperfections like everything else. Yet they have some perfections, and the effort on doing the exercises or kryia or the meditation, brings or help to bring the ”perfection” or some perfections on his or her owen lifes. Yes! Should up and Be Happy. Thanks for such a beautiful conversation. JGD Erjet 🙂
@Erjet…is not that practices don’t work…..anything can work and does actually…….It’s just that NOTHING WORKS PERMANENTLY. EVERYTHING COMES & GOES. Only your NATURE does NOT come & go. THAT IS.
perfection is an illusion/ever changing. And it comes & goes like everything else. (that doesn’t mean y
ou don’t strive for it, like people strive to do a perfect tennis game) but perfection is fleeting like EVERYTHING ELSE.
“Your concept in the mind that things should be a certain way causes pain in the mind. The cause of distress is set concepts in the mind” –SRI SRI Relax…IT IS AS IT IS…If It Could Be Different – It Would Be Different!…Relax.
I know that life can be amazingly hearbreaking..but for some reason as your heart is breaking, there’s THIS SPACE/LOVE that can permeate the deepest pain & bypass your story-OPENING you up to the full embrace of YOUR NATURE and carry you into the VASTENESS OF THIS…
I just surrender to the knowledge that there is a greater scheme of things that my mind cannot possibly fathom. I keep the optimistic view that out of whatever hardship comes to my life, something beautiful and shiny will come in the end, and that it was all for my own benefit and growth. What other reason is there if it isn’t for us to be better people? I just keep that optimistic outlook, and even the worst looks “ok”! 😉 JGD!
“it needs some stimulations sometime from the outside to the inside: in this cases exercises work, even some one gets sugestionated by this or by any other stimulation”
Yes! mind need suggestionation, in cases! p.s. sorry for the spelling of words. 🙂
Depression comes & goes like the seasons! It’s part of life…Relax, It will pass-YOU ARE LOVED…LOVE is your NATURE…and it’s summer…go swimming & have a yummy ice cream cone afterwards…go have some fun…THE SUN IS SHINNING….
“The sun is shining”… that reminds me of Bob Marley! he had a song that said something like that… a woman on the background would sing “and the weather is sweet” right after he said “sun is shining”
Dvorahji, I’m having great inner turmoil right now with my faith – I’m in a situation in which I would like to skip the present and move on to the next step. So how to make peace now with the “present” I am in, and how to keep hope alive for something I “wish” for, when the Universe pretty much will do as it will?
DVORAHJI:
Darling, what is turmoil, but thoughts and feeling coming-going-returning-goi
ng again more often then usual. The problem comes in when we give these thoughts and feeling the “importance” THEY DON’T DESERVE. Just because they SEEM more spiritual, more important, more enlightened then other thoughts, we somehow see them as “BIG SPIRITUAL TURMOIL”. Relax. They are thoughts like any other. You might as well be thinking about your next lunch. Thoughts are thoughts are thoughts.
The present is a thought. Hope is a thought. It’s all a thought and YOU ARE in the PRESENT. IT’S NOT UP FOR DEBATE, OR THOUGHTS OR FEELINGS. Your body is in the present. Your breathe is in the present. Your thoughts about the past and future and hope are ALL IN THE PRESENT.
You have NO CHOICE but to make peace with the PRESENT, as You are always in it. The next step is also in the present. You can’t rush an apple seed and you can’t “rush” your life to do something else. YOU JUST CAN’T, SO why not FACE THAT. Sit down, close your eyes, and say very softly before you sit down to meditate:
I am HERE. I am nothing, I want nothing…then continue with your meditation.
And you can say this to yourself even in activity during the day a couple of times.
Every question you have put in front of me is a CONCEPT you have about your life, what should happen. And you have concepts about how the universe works, And none of them hold water in the reality of WHAT IS.
IT’S ALL BS (BRAIN SCRABBLE) and you want me to give it importance. Just move a long with your life…just keep doing what you’re doing and let life work itself out! Do your Yoga, meditation, program. Do your courses, because that’s what you do……….And recognize that life just continues to do it’s thing. JUST MOVE ALONG and when these dire thoughts continue, great! SO WHAT? BE AN APPLE SEED. Add some fertilizer and change & grow when you change&grow. BESIDES YOU HAVE NO CHOICE. Relax with all this stuff….It’s just stuff honey, relax.
Relax ALREADY with all these thoughts…they come & then they gooooooooooo!
Depression comes & goes like the seasons! It’s part of life…Relax, It will pass-YOU ARE LOVED…LOVE is your NATURE…and it’s summer…go swimming & have a yummy ice cream cone afterwards…go have some fun…THE SUN IS SHINNING….
“The sun is shining”… that reminds me of Bob Marley! he had a song that said something like that… a woman on the background would sing “and the weather is sweet” right after he said “sun is shining”