Trying to GET RID OF THOUGHTS – IS THE SEEKERS GREATEST OBSTACLE!

 Friday, January 29, 2010 at 12:11am | Edit Note | Delete
Mathru Sri Sarada said: ” If you can give up all thoughts and make the mind completely silent and still, then it will automatically sink into the Heart”***
My experience goes like this: SOURCE is already HERE ALWAYS and thoughts come and go within source. You do not have to get “rid” of thoughts to BE Source or be “in full awareness of source” (remember I’m trying here to describe something that’s indescribably).
And I think this is one of the BIGGEST OBSTACLES of seekers today. They are always trying to get rid of their thoughts and it’s a BIG HUGE MISTAKE OF THE intellect/MIND and causes major suffering in the sincere seeker (who does sadhana and want to experience NO thought)
The mind thinks, that’s what is does, that’s what it’s designed for. SOURCE IS and CAN co-exist with thought. It’s like have a gold ring. It looks like a ring and it’s make entirely of GOLD. Gold & ring co-exist.
Yes you can just hang out with NO THOUGHT, SPACE FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME – but if you are functioning in the world, a thought will arise “oh, I have to go to the bathroom, or what will I make for dinner” and then NO thought again. BUT THAT NO THOUGHT STATE is there AT THE SAME TIME as the thought. Thought just passes through.
NOW, LET’S TALK ABOUT THOUGHTS ONCE & FOR ALL, OK? Because this is the basis of ALL your problems!
First of all you have no control over them PERIOD. I know you “think” you do, but you DON”T. That means you have NO reason to feel guilty about them. You may not like them, but so what? You don’t like your hair either! Your thoughts are JUST like your hair! Sometimes you like it and sometimes you don’t. 
Your Thoughts pass through your mind like the wind. Sometimes it’s a breeze and sometimes it’s tornado. Either way it’s PASSING THROUGH. You want to be in control, so you want to “believe” that you can CONTROL your thoughts. Well FORGET IT! Let them come and let them go and you remain AT PEACE, in your Space/HOME. (Meditation, breathing, Sadhana, deep sleep, stop them for awhile. The Main point here being for AWHILE, TEMPORARILY).
A good friend of mine said he was sitting with Guruji and he was really mad at him and he kept saying in his mind F*#@ You as he was looking at Guruji. Guruji (he reads thoughts as if you were talking to him) turned and looked at him and began to laugh and then of course my friend began to laugh because he also recognized what just happened. 
Thoughts are there, they come and then they go and they are ridiculously funny. Watch your mind even for a moment. You’ll find thoughts you never even heard of! Out of the clear blue sky you’ll start blessing someone or cursing them and you think “there’s something wrong with me”. So you take a course in controlling your thoughts, changing your thoughts, positive thinking, until you’re scribbling positive thoughts on the bathroom walls. 
Let me repeat for the hundredth time ALL your THOUGHTS, ALL of them, Come and then they Go, PERIOD. Whether it’s a thoughts of abuse or a thought of candy, or a thought of porno or a thought of love or a thought of killing someone. Whatever the thought. It COMES and then it GOES.
NOW when you GET THAT – you will naturally cognize that EVERYTHING comes and goes except SELF/PEACE/ENLIGHTENMENT/ HAPPINESS/GRACE/SPACE. That is Your True Nature. That INNOCENCE, that Purity, That untouched, unstained, unblemished SElF is Your True Nature. NOT, let me repeat NOT, your ridiculous, mean, sexual, nasty, murderous, angry, fabulously loving, saintly, wise, happy, ecstatic, devoted, yummy thoughts. They ALL come and Go. YOU remain a very very very COOL YOU/SELF always!! You are not your thoughts, YOU ARE EVERYTHING (that also means thoughts that come up are natural and also a part of this mystery that YOU ARE) …Comprendo?
Ok? So F@#% your thoughts. Enjoy them or don’t. Say I love you in front of Guruji, cry like baby or curse like a sailor, either way, YOU know and HE knows, they are JUST THOUGHTS. And the good news is SO ARE YOU. Dvorah, or Ellen or Tom are fabulous, unimaginable, totally un-understandable, miraculously fabulous concentrated THOUGHTS!’
I’m thinking about being a rabbit and making lots of little rabbits…
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Chandelle Payen

Chandelle Payen 

So the mind is already in the heart and is what it is and thoughts flow through it like blood ? is that what you mean ?X
January 29 at 1:49am via Facebook Mobile · 
Dvorahji Dvorah Adler

Dvorahji Dvorah Adler 

This isn’t something to understand. You understand it after you have experienced it and “grok” your Nature.

YOUR images are too solid. Forget the heart and the blood and the mind. Those are very definite concepts. Just read my description as if you saw a cloud in the sky moving by. It’s not for you to understand and then make another “IMAGE OF IT”. Just relax with this and be aware that thoughts come and go and
AWARENESS/SOURCE ARE your Nature. That’s all.

The mind wants to understand everything. This knowledge is beyond the mind. The mind DOESN’T UNDERSTAND IT , because the mind can’t go any farther then a thought. And you are not “just your thoughts” YOU ARE EVERYTHING…relax…

January 29 at 3:20am · 
D.L. Dudhane

D.L. Dudhane 


and if you can give up all words…and wonder in silence…
January 29 at 8:19am · 
Irene Harvey

Irene Harvey 

thank you! am sharing♥
January 29 at 9:10am · 
Jerry Harvey

Jerry Harvey 

you are absolutely right about trying to quiet the mind. since the brain operates the muscles, whenever there is muscular activity, there will necessarily and appropriately be continuous chatter.
January 29 at 10:46am · 
Dvorahji Dvorah Adler

Dvorahji Dvorah Adler 

When I say you are not your thoughts, you are EVERYTHING….It doesNOT mean that thoughts are not your NATURE, thoughts are part of this mystery that is YOU…they arise and part of THIS WHOLE. Seekers think that in order to be at peace they have to ‘CUT OUT” what isn’t them. But you are your thoughts tooo. Again you are EVERYTHING.

I woke up one morning and realized that thoughts were NOT even personal. They JUST WERE – coming and going in the air, moving around. How can they be personal when YOU ARE NOT PERSONAL (although the appearance is magically to the contrary).

This stuff will drive you crazy or make you feel brilliant if you sit and figure it out and think about it. But this KNOWLEDGE is to be “intuited” not known. It’s a cognition at best, not a “known intellectual truth”. You can talk about it, get the gist of it, but then when the “thought Sh@t” hits the fan, you’re back to square one, wondering what just happened. That the problem with all spiritual knowledge you think you got it, cause it begins to make sense to your mind and it’s really just another “intelligent,spiritual concept”.

You’ve got to intuit that the SPACE THAT YOU ARE is bigger (that’s the only way I can describe it) then your thoughts which comprise this world, you and everything in it.

January 29 at 11:53am · 
V Shankar Srinivasan

January 29 at 5:07pm · 
Liz Hunyadi

Liz Hunyadi 

Looks like trying to ‘figure things out’ is just…another form of striving. But we enjoy it. I often think, ‘I’ve gotta get SUPER SMART so that I don’t make any serious mistakes.’ The mind loves riddles but life has no ‘solution’. hahaha
January 29 at 6:42pm · 
Dvorahji Dvorah Adler

Dvorahji Dvorah Adler 

Well you know I’m a double scorpio, so I love mysteries and secrets, but I never tell anyone mine…My girfriend always makes fun of me, because I want to “know” everything….

knowledge is fun, science, explanations are fun and interesting. All the neo-advaita explanations & discussions are also fun and interesting BUT-it’s just NOT TRUTH, it’s entertainment for the mind and the ego (same thing really)

HOWEVER, once you’ve experienced that SPACE, that infinite moment, anything can bring you home and talking about IT or reading about IT automatically puts you into that AWE.

January 29 at 7:12pm · 
Liz Hunyadi

Liz Hunyadi 

Namaste, Dvorahji. ;O)
Sat at 5:23pm · 

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